Dave and Chris start the podcast by talking about the first of their "25 for 25": food trends for the past 25 years. Stay tuned to find out their first selection. They then interview Dan Giusti of Brigaid, and talk with him about the current stigma against institutional cooking, underrated chef paths, and the flaws of the current hierarchy of restaurants. They finish with an Ask Dave about cookbooks.

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